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Picture yourself stepping off the scale, leaving the number behind, and instead embracing a journey towards your true self. That's precisely the transformative voyage Leslie, a weight loss and wellness coach turned mindset mentor, has embarked on. As the owner of 'Getting Healthy with Leslie,' she brings an incredible blend of energy work and mindset coaching to the table, helping her clients break free from their barriers and blossom into their most authentic selves.
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Welcome to the Undiscovered Entrepreneur. The podcast where Brighton is the most popular brand new entrepreneur has come to life and could quite possibly be discovered. Join me, dj Scoob and the rest of the Scoob believers as we help these new businesses become a reality. We go. We now join DJ Scoob with the coaching of Leslie, owner of getting healthy with Leslie already in progress. Tell me about your obviously life coach. I could see that up there, but tell me a little more about what you're doing and and what you know, how things are going for you as far as that goes.
Speaker 2:Okay, so, yeah, so let me sort of give a little, if it's okay. I'll give a little bit of a backstory as the how I got to where I am. So I've been coaching for about seven and a half years now. I started out in the weight lesson, wellness coaching, seven and a half years ago, started out honestly on my own personal journey to get healthy, starting with the physical health you know, health journey, wanted to pay it forward. I lost 75 pounds in the course of seven months about seven and a half years ago. Yeah, thank you, and you know and why it's always been a struggle for me. I mean, it's been a it's been a lifetime journey and in the process of getting healthy I decided I want to pay it forward and help other people get healthy. And so at that point I became a weight loss and wellness coach, which was fantastic, loved it, still love it, still do that as part of my business. And. But I know that a big piece of the weight loss and wellness coaching and a big piece of the program that I coach Is mindset, because we don't shift our mindset. A diet is just a diet, right. A diet has to start date and in and date. You know, we really have to start working on what's going on up here in order to have lasting change. And so for the last seven and a half years I've been coached a whole lot of people to lose a whole lot of weight. But I start as I was doing that I was getting more and more into Loving the peace of the mindset coaching piece of it and really helping people make that piece of that transformation. And I've always been into energy work and more holistic kind of health and so about two and a half years ago I started adding pieces of that into my practice the energy work, the holistic, the holistic, the mindset. I got certified in a motion code, body code. I became a certified mindset coach. As part of it. I'm actually in the process of another certification, which we call it's called an elite performance coach, which is another combination sort of mindset and energy work To help people move from point a to point z very quickly. We're shifting those mindset and shifting the Energetic pieces that hold, that hold people back. So while I still do weight loss and wellness coaching and it's fantastic I have really shifted my business over to the mindset and the energy and and those pieces of the coaching to go along with and a lot, and I have a lot of clients that come to me and that's really sort of how I started to make. The shift was. I had a lot of people that would come to me and say I Love what you do. I want the mindset piece. I love all the things that you talk about. I don't need to lose weight or I don't want to lose weight or I don't want to do the weight loss program that you're coaching, but I want those other pieces that you give and that you do, and so that was where I started to create that piece to my business, that piece of my coaching business, and now it's really shifting to Bringing on clients that have nothing to do with weight loss. I still bring on plenty of weight loss clients, but really my focus is is Shifting into that other place, and my goal as a coach is to help people truly connect to their true self. It's in here, right, like really start to relearn. Who am I, what do I want, what and what's holding me back? What are the surface things, the layers? I mean we're like onions, right, peeling off the layers. How many layers have I put on top and lost sight of who's really in here, so helping people, people peel back those, those layers as quickly as possible to reconnect with who's in here. So then when they reach their goal, it's a different kind of goal, right. You know, if we talk weight loss and wellness, somebody can have a goal of reaching a certain number on the scale, but all that really is is the great their gravitational pull to the earth, and so if that's all they're focused on when they get there, they're not going to be able to stay there. But when they've redefined what does healthy mean, why do I want to be healthy, what does that look like to my inner self? And and really start to connect with that, yeah, that number is important for a variety of reasons, but it doesn't become the end, all be all anymore and they have a different connection and a different relationship with that number, then they, then they do if they just go for the goal of just that number. So that was my Long story short. That's good.
Speaker 1:I actually, I actually like the way you pivot between this is working for me now, but it just seems like everybody is saying this is nice, but I would much rather have this for me. So it's nice that you were able to make that pivot over to to a holistic mindset and your energy, work and that kind of thing too, and Having the right type of mindset when, after you're getting you know, it's just for as an example, after losing that weight and you're, it's just like you said too, because I've actually Experienced it myself, where I finally reached that goal and it's like, okay, I'm here now, what you know, okay, well, I'm just gonna go back to my old habits, because now I'm bored, so, so that's why 85% of the people that go on a diet but they're way back on, it's not you know.
Speaker 2:It's not that they don't know how to do it, we all know how to do it, it's we. We don't have that. There's that disconnect. You know I talk about it a lot. Like you know, you're trying to cross the Grand Canyon. You're standing here when you start the grant, your, your goal is over here across the Grand Canyon, and so many people just think that that goal is Is getting to that number on the scale. So when they're picturing in themselves and they go there quickly, you can. You can lose the weight pretty quickly. I lost 75 pounds in seven months. You can do that pretty quickly. But when you do that really quickly and you haven't reconnected with the pieces, you're you, you really haven't made that shift that change you. I mean, in this, in this world, everybody wants the quick fix. You know they want the pill, they want the shot, they want that you know I talk about. You can hop in a helicopter and go across. But if you go across in the helicopter, you're taking your current version of yourself and just taking it across and Standing next to the future version of yourself that you're creating. What I want to help somebody do is really create this new For a future version, which takes time, which takes building, building the bridge across. And as you build that bridge, that future version yourself Changes, because you can't even start to dream about what you want. It's past that first goal until you start working towards that first goal and say, oh, I get this right. I mean, I tell people all the time if you told me seven and a half years ago when I said that I would be where I am now, I Would tell you you're crazy. All I could see at that point was getting turned a number on the scale. But it took starting to do that journey, starting that piece, to be able to say, oh wait, there's more to that. Oh wait, there's more to that. Oh wait, there's more to that. I'm still not on the other side. My what, what's envisioned on that other side, keeps changing, keeps growing, keeps getting better. Because as I go across and learn more, I Can then expand that and I can connect more deeply with myself. And what do I really want and what do I want for my family and what do I want for my life and what do I want for my clients. All that can continue to grow and change.
Speaker 1:We always seem to want to push that goal post just a little bit further when we get to, just before we get to that goal. Good, look for this again much further. We can actually take that thing. Yeah, that's a great mindset to have and I see I can already see that you instill that into your clients, so that's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I work on. That's what I try to do.
Speaker 1:That's kind of what we do, right, right. So what I'd like to know here is what, what would you like for me, what would you like to have for me, what kind of questions Do you have, what kind of goals do you have? I mean, what would you like to get out of this conversation?
Speaker 2:Right, so I have some really big goals. Yeah, you know I, I want, you know, to expand my reach. I want to reach as many people as I can possibly reach. You know I want to to Find to those people that you know I work with people on sort of on all different levels of the mountain. Right, you've got the people that are standing at the bottom of the mountain, lost in the trees and have no idea how to even start going up the mountain. I have a lot of clients that are sort of halfway up the mountain and they can't see. They're caught in the fog and they can't see the top yet they don't know how to get up there. And then I have clients who are at the top, who've made it to the top, who've hit Whatever that goal is, and they're looking around at all their mountain, the other mountains, and they're like I don't know where to go next. So and I love working with all three different different groups of people, and it's finding more of those people who are there the key, though, with each one of those groups, is that Wherever they're stuck, they want To make that shift. I was talking to a client today who is very stuck and is happy being stuck. That was exactly what we talked about. She's so scared to move forward, right, and this is something that we had to talk through. And as soon as I said that to her sort of look that you just gave, it's sort of like the look that she gave me and I was like, but think about it, we've been talking about the same thing for the last three weeks, where you're spinning in circles and any option that you're given, you have a reason why you can't do any of those options right. So for some reason, you're finding security and being stuck, right. So, and that opened it up but a lot of people are comfortable being stuck and don't even realize it. And don't you know and don't aren't really. They're sort of looking to move forward, but they're not really. And so the people that I wanna really connect with are those that realize that they're stuck or that when it's pointed out to them, they're like oh yeah, I mean, that's client of mine. As soon as we had a conversation about it, she's like oh yeah, you know, and that's where it was. We came up with a variety of things for her to do over the course of the next week to make some decisions, to take that next step forward, to get unstuck. So people who are open to hearing that, you know, people who are ready and say, yeah, I can see that I could be stuck, that I could be enjoying being stuck here, but I really don't enjoy it. That makes sense.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, it makes perfect sense. I mean, I see it all the time too in my coachings, where people they get comfortable and instead of going out of their comfort zone they want to stick in, stay in their little hole, instead of moving on to something else that might even make their life even better, they think, oh, this is as good as it's gonna be, but as coaches, as coaches know that it could actually be better than where they're thinking.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly. All right, it's what I talk about as the drunk monkey. Right, the drunk monkey is the voice in our head that gives us, you know, partial truths and you know, but keeps us there because it's safe. Right, you know, I know this like, yes, I could have better, but if I try to have better, what if it's worse? What if it all goes wrong? Right, so that voice keeps us stuck in that spot. So, learning how to thank that drunk monkey and say thank you for what you did for us in the past, but you're not who I want to listen to. I now want to listen to this future version of myself that's over here, that has reached the goals, and what did that version of myself actually do? So, but, you know, looking for people who are open to that right, not everybody's open to that. When you start having that conversation, Right, All right.
Speaker 1:so what else? What else do you think is going on that I could possibly help you with?
Speaker 2:I mean, I think for me there are some probably I'm sure I'm missing tactical, practical steps and things that I need for growing my business. I mean, I think that that's where you know I've done the things that I know to do, but I'm very open to, hey, give me some ideas of things that I might be missing in ways that I can make my business better. You know, I'm always open to hearing new things, learning new things. Having someone point out to me where my shortcomings are, I am very open to that, you know you know, Can't learn if somebody doesn't, if it's not pointed out to you, we don't know what we don't know, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Good, okay, we might have some stuff we can go over there. Is there anything else that you want to cover as far as that goes?
Speaker 2:Not off the top of my head, but as we start talking, I'm sure there's going to be stuff that's going to come out.
Speaker 1:Okay. So there's nothing else at this particular point. That kind of comes to mind. Okay, good, good, that's okay. So I just want to make sure that I get you know as much information I can about what you're doing. So, as far as the, we're just going to go right into it here. As far as the tactical problems and things, what are you actually doing now, cause I don't want to go over stuff that you're already doing? So can you give me an example of what you're doing Now? I've seen you on TikTok. I've seen you do a few things there. As far as outreach and the social medias, what else are you doing?
Speaker 2:So most of my social media is Facebook. I have a pretty strong Facebook presence. Tiktok I'm just starting to dabble into cause. I people have been telling me for a really long time I needed to do TikTok and I hadn't. Yeah, and so now I'm finally like starting to dabble into that a little bit. I prefer a long form video, but I know that that's not where the algorithm is, so short form video scares me, which is why I didn't do a whole lot of TikTok. But I'm, you know, broaching that and doing, you know, baby steps into it. I've been getting into doing podcasts, being interviewed on podcasts. My goal down the road is to have a podcast of my own, but and I've said that for a while and I think there's some fear that's holding me back from doing it but I am very comfortable being on other people's podcasts and I can talk and I can. It's the reverse. So I've started doing. I actually just launched today on Facebook. I did. I'm going to start doing a regular. I always do lives. I go live a lot, but where it's a planned, I'm calling it a mindset minute. So I did it today. It was a longer, you know. It was about 17 minutes, like a training kind of thing, and then I'm going to be doing shorter mindset minute pieces in between. So I'm starting to do some of that to some nurturing. I've always struggled with growing my Instagram. For some reason I just do not get a following on Instagram. I put stuff over there but it doesn't. It hasn't done much for me, so I'm not even focusing really over there. I'll drop it in, but it's not. It's not growing much, so that you know those pieces with social media. But finding the new ways to reach, really to expand my reach, is my biggest thing and I'm open to new ideas and I'm open to getting over some of the fear. Doing some of this stuff, you know, at the podcast, like my first is to start getting on a lot of people's podcasts. That's a goal of mine and I've tried, you know, starting to try to find as many. Today this is my third podcast kind of thing that I've done today, which is, you know, I'm trying to get into a couple of them a week at least and I would love to be places where I can speak in person. So I have one of those things lined up in October already for it's a breakthrough mastermind kind of thing for leaders and I've been to several of the, the person who runs it. I've been to several of them as attendees and I reached him and I said I want to speak at your next one. So he said okay, so I'm speaking there, which is exciting. Oh awesome, that's great yeah so there'll probably be 200 to 250 people in person and then he'll probably have another five to 600 online, so which is really good, it's exciting.
Speaker 1:Send me an invite to that. I'd like to actually see you speak. Okay, when that comes about. Yeah, I'd really send me an invite on Facebook.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. That's in October, so I definitely will. Yeah, so I'm just, you know, I'm open to pretty much everything, though to how can I expand my reach.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And it's my biggest thing.
Speaker 1:Okay. So it's funny to me that a lot of what you have just explained to me everything, the one word that keeps coming up, and the one word that keeps coming up in just about all my clients, is the word fear. I'm scared to do this, I'm scared to do this. This is a fear that I'm trying to overcome, that kind of thing. So I don't know if you might know this or not, being a coach, but do you know what fear actually stands for?
Speaker 2:Yep face everything and rise Wrong.
Speaker 1:That's good, I like that, but false evidence appearing real.
Speaker 2:That's true, but I like it the other way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yours is good too. I like yours too. The one I live by is false evidence appearing real, because a lot of the fears that we have aren't actually fears. There's just something that's in our head, and I think you probably can attest to that more than anybody that I've talked to. So I wanna go over a couple of these fears that you have and see if there's ways that we can actually overcome these fears so we can progress things a little bit differently in a different way. The first thing I'd like to actually talk about is you actually starting your own podcast. Okay, so tell me why you haven't started your own podcast yet.
Speaker 2:Time is part of it, and lack of knowledge is the help.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And so I've spoken. I actually spoke to somebody the other day who helps people start podcasts, and so he and I are gonna meet again. I'm going away this coming weekend and I'm going away probably two more times in August. I've been away most of August and so at the beginning of September we already have a date on the calendar to come back and talk and start to map out what that could look like. So, but a lot of it was just lack of first, it was lack of knowledge of how to do it and what the steps are, and it felt very intimidating to me. I know I can speak. I know I can get up and speak. I think that there is pieces of finding guests and I think that there's a little bit of fear of who's gonna actually follow this podcast that I'm putting out there. But I know that that's junk. I know that that's all garbage. Okay, cause I have followers. I have people that listen to anything I put up, so that's where the face, everything and rise comes in is okay. I can rise above this. Like that doesn't have to control me. You know I can use that as sort of my push, so that's good. A lot of it's lack of.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good. It sounds like you're already taking steps to overcome that. But I mean, what are the things as far as tell me about what your fear is, as far as what you're gonna be talking about, cause it sounds like you're telling me well, what about guests? What about? What am I gonna talk about? Are people gonna follow me in that kind of thing? Obviously people are gonna follow you, cause you already have a following and a couple of the social medias, so that's a given, so I'm not even gonna count that one. What I'm more worried about is what you're actually gonna, what your content is gonna be in your podcast.
Speaker 2:And I think that that's part of like my issue. When I do like Facebook lives, I very much just fly by the seat of my pants Like somebody. I'll have a conversation with a client, or I'll have something, or a conversation with one of my kids or something during the day and I'm like this is a perfect live and I just go on and you know, just I can talk. So that comes very naturally to me. So I think that that's part of mapping out what am I gonna talk about? That I have to actually plan it before I do a podcast, and so that, I think, is a big piece of why I haven't done it is because it takes that. You know, my ADHD brain can't just go and fly by the seat of my pants and just do it. I have to have mapped it out and think about okay, what do I wanna talk about? What are my goals? You know, where am I trying to take people? What road am I trying to take people down? And that's sort of this mindset minute piece that I'm starting to do. That for me, is that same concept of okay, I gotta wrap my head around coming up with a list of topics that I'm actually going to take my people down and not just fly by the seat of my pants Because I have plenty of content. It's just getting it organized.
Speaker 1:Don't overthink it, though Don't overthink it. You still wanna plan, but still you don't wanna overplan it to the point where you're not doing anything.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Analysis by paralysis. Right, paralysis by analysis. That's what it was, okay anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know what you meant. Anyway, you know what I'm saying so.
Speaker 1:I mean, don't think that you have to get in there and get perfect right away on your first couple episodes, because it's not gonna happen. Okay, my very first interview was with my son talking about his job at the Pizza Place, so that was my first. As a matter of fact, I went back today and listened to my very first recording I ever did on a computer ever and I was like, ooh, that was me. Ah, but don't get to the point where you're trying to plan, when you're planning, you're planning to plan and then nothing happens. You more wanna like plan and then do than plan and then do and plan, even if it's small increments, or points where you just get on and just record yourself for nobody, just record yourself for yourself. Nobody else is gonna hear it, but at least you'll start learning the processes and what you need to do and how to edit that particular thing and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2:So I just feel like and that's how I started when I started with Facebook Live. Right when I started with Facebook Live I don't know if it's my internet or yours, it's phrasing but that's what I started with was I was terrified to do that, and so I made a commitment at the time that for like literally for like two years, I went live three single, when lives were still good for the algorithm, and every single day and I would just like sometimes I would just pull up, like in the newsletter from my company's newsletter and just teach off of that Cause I made the commitment that I was going to do this every day and it's funny, cause there are people that have been following me this whole time that they were. I was like I was terrible when I first started, but I just made myself do it and now it's like no big deal. I can flip on my camera and just talking whatever. So I know it's the same thing and that's the steps that I've taken with doing the short form video is, I was terrified of it and I was like no, I did this with lives. I don't care if they're terrible, I just need to start doing them, and so it's the same kind of concept that I'm trying to put into place. Yeah, so I know that in theory, I think the podcast to me feels bigger because I feel like there are more steps to it with the editing and all of those kinds of pieces. But yeah, it's a.
Speaker 1:So what is your process actually? Or do you have a process yet where you're planning these things? I mean, do you just write it down on a piece of paper, or what is your actual process?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just I keep a list of topics. Is that what you're asking like for those kinds of things? For yeah, I keep a list of topics and as things. If I'm in a conversation with somebody and somebody says something or I say something, I'm like, oh, that's good, and I just jot it down and keep a running list of ideas. And then when I go to do something, I'm like, oh wait, what am I gonna talk about today? And I grab it.
Speaker 1:So how do you actually organize your thoughts? Do you do like thought processes and that kind of thing? Do you just do like the whole line bubble thing? Or I mean, what is your process for organizing those thoughts that come across?
Speaker 2:I just jot them down. It's not really my ADHD brain says just get them down or I will totally forget them. So I just get them down. They're not. And I have sheets of paper that like have things listed, and every so often I go and I compile them and I'm like, okay, which of these have I done and which of these haven't I done? And we can recompile the list.
Speaker 1:So it's not organized, okay so I think one of your goals at this point should start to try to organize your thoughts a little bit more that way that they're a lot more clearer to you when you actually come up with these subjects that you wanna talk about. The other thing I'm actually gonna give you my little secret on how I do my organizations and I do it with I got a little bit right here is bad boys, sticky notes, posted notes. So have you used those before you heard about that method?
Speaker 2:I use them all the time.
Speaker 1:But have you heard of the method of how to use them to organize your thoughts?
Speaker 2:Nope, I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 1:Okay, Because I hate to tell you something you already know about. So what I want? Well, that's before.
Speaker 2:I know it.
Speaker 1:Okay. So what I like to do for myself when I do something and I actually have a YouTube video of this too, if you want to go look at that back too but what I do is I get a bunch of these guys and then I set a timer for myself for five minutes that I completely brained up everything that I could have in my brain that goes with that subject. So I'll write down so podcasts, so the podcast there's editing sticky, there's there's notes sticky, and then I'll just brain up everything and just put it up on the wall. Okay, so after those five minutes are up, I'll actually organize those things in different areas and they will organize, they almost will organize themselves, especially if you have the ADHD brain, because you'll actually start seeing things that match up. And when they start matching up and you start organizing, you realize that each one can be a subject that you can talk about. Then what I do is I actually take a picture of that with my phone so I can keep track of it, so I won't have to worry about losing notes or anything like that. I actually have ways to you know on your phone so you can keep track of it. That way it's a good way to get your left brain and right brain separate Get your editing brain out of the picture and just have your creativity brain on, because you're not there editing. Oh, this is spelled wrong. You know this doesn't look right. You're just dumping everything on your brain. So that's a method that I use to brain dump and organize my thoughts.
Speaker 2:Cool, I'm going to try it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, give it a try. Yeah, you'd be quite surprised. But first, when you first hear about it, it's kind of like that sounds really weird. It really does. But once you actually get into it and start working with the sticky notes, you realize that it's a lot more organized. When you're done and have everything organized, it's like wow, here is my next subject, here is this next talk. I could do a short on this, that kind of thing. So it's a good way to kind of do things when you want to organize your brain.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool.
Speaker 1:The other thing I'd like to talk about real quick is you said you were going to have, you think you're going to have problems finding guests for your podcast and that kind of thing. So where do you think you would be able to find guests for your podcast coming up? That's in the realm of what you're going to be talking about.
Speaker 2:Some I can use clients and have them share their journey. Otherwise, I don't know. That's my big thing is where to find people that complement what I do to share.
Speaker 1:So if you were to, I mean, look around a little bit and see where your audience would be for something like this, where would you look? Any idea where you would look? No, no, okay, that's okay, that's okay. The reason why I'm asking these questions is just to see you know once again if there's something you already know about that I can, you know, help you with. So I am actually part of a Facebook group called Find a Guest Be a Guest.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, that's where I'm in there, I think.
Speaker 1:Are you in there? Oh, that's where we met.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's where we met, yeah.
Speaker 1:Dig into that a little bit deeper when you start your podcasting, because I have found some amazing guests in that group.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So when you get your podcasts going, go there Twitter. You do Twitter at all, or X? I guess it is now.
Speaker 2:Not really.
Speaker 1:I'm on there, but I don't think so much. They actually have a great podcast group in there. The podcast following in there very, very helpful. Everybody that's a podcast in there all follow each other and they help one another, so that's a good place to get support for being a podcaster. I would try to find out where your guests are going to lie. Where do they stand? Where are they on Facebook? Can you go out and find them? You got to really put yourself in the avatar of your guest to be able to find them.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think part of my problem is I don't know who my avatar of my guest is. I think that is probably a bigger piece, because if I don't know who I want to interview, I don't know where to find them.
Speaker 1:So we need to step back a little bit and talk about who your actual avatar is for, say, a podcast. So give me a little more subject about what your podcast is going to be. Obviously, it's going to be about life coaching. Can you niche that down a little bit more for me?
Speaker 2:So I'm not sure whether I mean it'll be the mindset talk and how to helping people, how to shift that mindset. I want to get into some of the energy, work pieces of it, potentially doing some of that live. I was actually just in a as part of an online seminar kind of thing where I was one of the speakers and I did that. I was being interviewed and I took the person who was interviewing me through an emotion code like a mini session on the thing, because our conversation went down that path and she said, well, can you show me how it's done? I was like sure, let's do it here. She was like, oh, okay, which was really actually super cool, and I've been doing those in my. I have a private Facebook group, so I have a series of clients lined up that want free, like free mini sessions that we're doing those live, which has been fun and I could do a little bit of that. But I don't want that to always be the case because that's going to get boring. I mean, to do it once or twice, you know, is cool, but it'll get boring if that's always what we do in the podcast. I don't know, you know. So I don't know who else Like I'm open. I'm always open to hearing how other people are doing mindset kinds of pieces. But I don't want just a whole bunch of mindset like coaches on their either.
Speaker 1:Well, that's why it's important to be able to define who your avatar is, so you don't get the people that you don't want you know. So, like, let me ask you a quick question, and I think you've done this right, but I'm going to ask this question anyway. This mindset, that thing you did with the, with the one that you just talked about, you did with, have you, have you done that with yourself?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I do it all the time.
Speaker 1:Okay, so is there a way we can incorporate that into actually finding an avatar?
Speaker 2:Probably.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you're your own avatar. You want to find people that are similar to you. Now I don't know if that's going to be your avatar, but that's a good place to start looking for an avatar, right? So I think one of your main concerns at this point obviously starting the podcast, and I think that's going to be pivotal for you but niching down what you're going to talk about and finding who your avatar is going to be. I think it's going to be two of your main points, cause right now you're talking mindset, and that's as far but niche down as you're getting. You have to niche down further than that, cause that is way too wide of a net to be able to find people.
Speaker 2:So is it the avatar of whom I listener is, or is it the avatar of whom I guess are that I need, or both?
Speaker 1:You're actually probably going to have to do both. You need to know who you're going to interview and who you're going to. That's going to be good for your podcast. You don't want to just throw anybody in there.
Speaker 2:Right, no, I don't want just anybody.
Speaker 1:Right, so you want to niche down to the people that you know are good for your subject and then you want to incorporate that into the people that are going to be listening at a particular person. So being able to identify who is going to be listening to that particular person that you niche down to as how you're going to find your avatar, okay, that might take some time to think about. You might have to take some sticky notes and start sticking them up on the wall. Who?
Speaker 2:knows exactly what. I was just thinking that I didn't get my sticky notes out.
Speaker 1:It's just sticky notes out. Yeah, Get you know, get your side.
Speaker 2:Do I do first? Do I do who my avatar is to listen that I want to be listening first, or do I do my avatar of who I want as a guest first?
Speaker 1:I would do personally. I would probably do guest first, because those are the people that are going to be making the content for the podcast that other people are going to listen to.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So that's the way I would go with it. Also, you want to kind of put yourself in there too, because if you're going to do solo episodes, it's going to be kind of the same thing too. Right Now, me personally I only do interviews. I am terrible with solos. I've only done two in the whole 60 episodes that I've put together and they turned out okay. It's one of my fears, because I do have a fear of talking with myself to a camera, don't know why, because I it's just, I don't know, it's just one of my fears that I go over, but anyway. So when it comes to that, I think that's what, what you should do as far as trying to find your audience and that kind of thing, because your audience will find you if you're niched down enough to where they can accept it, and that's just too wide, your audience isn't going to find you. You can even ask your followers what would you like to hear? You know, if I were to ask them, if I were to put on a podcast, what would you like to hear? And they'll tell you what they want to hear. If you have that strong, what's that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll put that up. I'll ask the question tomorrow. I'll put it up on Facebook.
Speaker 1:There you go, Do it now. Well, not now now, but I mean you know, yeah.
Speaker 2:I want to get an answer. So, I'll you know, I'll go tomorrow.
Speaker 1:There you go. So something that kind of came across me too in our talking. You just said the word training. Tell me about that a little bit, can you elaborate? Can you elaborate a little bit more about training? Tell me, what you do there.
Speaker 2:That I do, the training that I give.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that you give.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I mean I do a variety of different trainings. I train people on how to do some of what I do. You know, I have a group of people who want to learn how to build a coaching business, so I train people in that and how to use the tool. And my clients, I mean I train them on how to use the tools, that that that we use together, you know, so that they don't just need me, right. And I think that that's a very, very important thing, that when someone walks away, that I don't, I'm not their savior, that if I'm not available, they have tools in their back pocket to be able to help themselves through a situation. That, to me, is very important. Um, you know that. So those, those are the big training things that I do.
Speaker 1:So tell me about. Can you give me like I don't want the whole toolbox, but I mean like can you give me one or two examples of these tools that you use?
Speaker 2:So with with clients. So a lot of it's energy work kinds of tools, visualization kinds of things, depending on what's going on. You know some of how to move their own energy. One of my favorite tools actually I mean it's a software that I that I use, that I encourage them to use as well which scans the body and produces inner voice tones that they can listen to. So I can run tones for them and I do for for people, but I really encourage them to have access to that as well, um, so they can do it anytime that they need it. Um, I don't know if you saw my Facebook page. I put it up yesterday offering anybody who hasn't tried it yet, and I have a whole bunch of people, Um, and I offered the inner voice tones, but I also offered the? Um, the food sensitivity scan and so helping people be able, so that I don't have to do that for them, but they can understand how to do that for themselves, to make good choices and and to use, to use this tool, um. But I have a whole lot of different energy moving tools. I have a lot of mindset tools that you know, if someone's stuck in something, to give them and teach them how to do it themselves, so they don't need me necessarily. I can assist them. But if I'm not available they can say oh well, I know at least some first steps to to get myself into a better place or to get myself past what I'm facing.
Speaker 1:And these people that in your Facebook and your clients and these are tools that they get from you. How can we use that to our advantage in the podcast?
Speaker 2:Well, I can teach some of them, but I don't want to teach everything, because then why? I'm here to coach them and I do teach some pieces? Um, and I do certain things. You know like small segments of things. Um, you know, like, when I do the mini sessions with people that I'm doing live in my Facebook group, um, they get a small snippet of it. Um, and here now you've had a taste. You want for real? Okay, sign up with you know, become a client, and we're going to do this for real. You know we're going to take you. You know this is just the beginning piece of it. We're going to take you down a? Um, a bigger road, um, longer road.
Speaker 1:Um, why can't you do the same thing in a podcast?
Speaker 2:I can. I can Um for some of it, but again doing too much of the same, I think we'd get boring.
Speaker 1:Well, not so much. I would actually put and this is just my opinion, I would actually put that in the mix of what you're doing, so people can understand that this is what you're doing, this is a part of what you do, this is part of your niching down that I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:I mean, I could do a whole series of mini coaching sessions, just like sort of what you're doing, and bring people on and saying who wants a free coaching session? And that's going to become a podcast in our view. Um, so how much of these, when you do this, do you edit out?
Speaker 1:Me personally. Everybody does it differently, me none. Okay, it takes me way too much time to edit a two hour session, which is generally how long these usually take. So what I'll do is I'll just throw in my intro, throw in my outro and just kind of let it ride. I'll just make sure there isn't too many big pauses or bad words or anything like that, you know. But for the most part I just throw it on there unedited. All I do is just improve the sound quality with my editor and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 2:It saves me a time and how many people watch it all the way? What's your viewership with it?
Speaker 1:Doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter to me. I'm helping somebody out there. That's what matters to me. That's just the more. It's more important than how many people are actually watching is how many people are actually learning, and there's no way for me to know for sure how many people are learning, even with. You have no idea, right.
Speaker 2:Exactly. No, you have no idea, I would rather think Well, that's a great thing. Yeah, yeah, that's what I love about what I do is people out of nowhere. I mean, I have somebody who came to me last week and sent me a message. I never knew, I had never like. I have Facebook friends with her, but I had never really had any kind of in depth conversation with her and she watches everything that I do. And she sent me a message last weekend said okay, I follow everything you do, I need you, I need you in my life, I need you to coach me. I'm like, okay, great and it was fantastic, but you don't realize who isn't speaking up, that's listening. So I'm all for that, which is why I do all the stuff that I do on Facebook.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And you know, and free content, and you know I give away a lot of free stuff, don't? I totally get that.
Speaker 1:So two things come up for me right now. Number one you're telling me that you give away a lot of free stuff, that I'm hearing that. Do you ask for anything in return?
Speaker 2:Sometimes I ask for testimonials Not often enough. I'm really not good about asking for testimonials. I'm working on getting those testimonials. I'm working on doing that. I've gotten a little bit better. But there's only so many times that I've got a bunch of people that are the same people that take me up on my free content and my free things, which is great. But that comes back to the beginning, where I said I want to expand my reach. Not that I don't want to continue to service those people. I need to expand my reach.
Speaker 1:So a couple of things. When people do come out to you like that, what you should do is ask them to tell people about you. Do you ask for referrals from these people at all?
Speaker 2:I do For all the people I ask for.
Speaker 1:Good, but that's how you're going to get people besides these people that are already following you, that are apparently super fans that you already have. That's what I call that. Use that to your advantage. The other thing I think I'm thinking, too when I ask you what you ask for in return, which is great, what you have so far. Do you have an email list?
Speaker 2:I'm starting to build that. It's not good, but I just actually working with the person who's helping me with my website. We just put together, actually yesterday, where I said, like I need a funnel list for anybody who wants my free content, and I started handing that, putting that link out to people who said, you know, okay, you want more of these free trainings, you want to know when I'm going to go live, you want to know it here so that I can start that funnel list. I'm working on that. I needed that missing piece.
Speaker 1:And do you have an email server? I do, okay, good. I use ConvertKit. Some people use MealChimp. A couple of them are out there, so good. I want to make sure that you're getting those types of emails and things like that, because that's actually what is going to help you with your reach and help you with your business, right? So good, more than anything else. So the other thing I wanted to do what is going on with my computer is making weird sounds.
Speaker 2:One of the other tools because you're asking about tools one of the other tools that I have. It's an amazing tool to bring people in. You know, it's not a tool that I give to somebody like that they can work on, but it's my habit finder assessment. So it's a free assessment that people can take when they first, when they want to learn more about their habits of thinking, and they take the free assessment and they have to do a debrief, because if you don't do a debrief, you're not going to understand what any of it means. And so I have a free version of the debrief and a paid version, a longer paid version of the debrief, and that can be that is doing. Some of those could also potentially be a podcast doing a debrief with somebody as a podcast piece. So that's also, though, a lead magnet to pull people in here. Take my habit finder assessment and then come and, do you know, do a debrief with me to understand your habits of thinking. So when they, when we go through it, we look at what are your habits of thinking, which ones of those habits of thinking are serving you and which ones are sabotaging you right now, and then you know where do we want to focus, to start making some shifts. Do we want to focus on the ones that are sabotaging you and rain them in, or do we want to focus on some of your natural strengths and continue to strengthen those? Which is where I tend to want to like to go with people is work on what you're good at, and then those things that are sabotaging you tend to rain themselves in. So that's, that's a piece of what I do.
Speaker 1:And that's actually a good would be good content for your podcast. But at the same time you'd be advertising If you want to take the same thing that they took here it is and go from there too. So that would actually be very beneficial in your podcast if you were to do that, like you know, once every couple episodes or something like that. There's a couple ways you can. I'm sure you can think of it.
Speaker 2:And they're always different. You know you can, but there's so much content in there that if I'm doing sort of a mini session with any somebody, anyway I can pick different pieces of the assessment to go through with, with with the person on the podcast. So there's a there's a lot that I could do there.
Speaker 1:For some reason. What the heck is going on with my computer there, weird thing. Okay, so good. Good, you're already starting to plan your podcast.
Speaker 2:it sounds like you're coming up with ideas for yourself. No, a lot of bit.
Speaker 1:That's all good stuff. That's all good stuff that you can use in your podcast. And while you're thinking these things, then you can start making up your avatar that's going to match these things that we've been talking about already. The other thing that the other thing that came up for me is have you ever thought about putting together a course?
Speaker 2:So I have thought about it. I have not done it yet. So I've done some mini, what I've called like five day challenges, like mostly. Certainly I did one that was a five day get out of your comfort zone challenge, and I did that in my private group and that actually would be a perfect course. I'd have to rerecord all of it because when I do it I record it day by day. It's mapped out before I do it, but I they have homework every day. So when I go to record I record the day one and they do the homework, and then when I record day twos, I refer back to the homework that they've turned in. So it would. I can't just take those videos and put and I talk about, you know, posture homework in the, you know, in my healthy have a blueprint. So it would need to be redone. So I have I've done a couple of those that need to be redone. But yeah, of course is definitely again one of those things on my list.
Speaker 1:Make sure you do. You think about that, because that's going to be probably one of your biggest ways to gather some more people for yourself, because people are going to take these courses. They're going to love these courses and suggest them to other people. Hey, I took this course to change my life. You should try this. Okay, you know that's going to be one of your things, one of your ways to get outreach to more people. I understand that you're doing them right now, in a way, in a closed forum. It's time to expand that out. It's time to get out of that, out of that private, and go into public.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It's going to be very easy for you to make that transition, because all you have to do is delete a few words that you have in these sessions already, and they're they're perfect for the public, right.
Speaker 2:And then, well, I probably do need to rerecord them.
Speaker 1:I would probably rerecord them, but the nice thing is you already know what you're going to say, right, right, it's going to be very simple to do, because you do it all the time anyway. Like I said, all you need to do is just delete a few sentences of words that are specific for the private group and make it available or change it to where it's part of the public group, and then you know. The five day challenge is good. That's a good way to actually get a lot of people in your email list. Sometimes I would even. I would probably even give it away for free at one point to build up your email list and then, after you build up to a certain point, then start charging for it again.
Speaker 2:It was free in my group, so it was, you know, and it's out there. I mean it's up on. I mean I can pull it down from YouTube, but the original one is up there, is out there.
Speaker 1:But what I'm saying is, as you're building this along, you could actually offer it to people that are in your email list, because that's where a lot of the people that are already following you're going to want your stuff, because they've already committed to being part of your email list for a reason.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Right, so these are all warm.
Speaker 2:So is the plan to build the email list first and then roll those out, or roll those out and then build the like?
Speaker 1:What do you feel comfortable doing?
Speaker 2:Well, to me, to build those out is easier than building the email list and growing the email list, because I've already done those. Right so they just done a re-recording.
Speaker 1:Exactly so, because of that feeling that you have, that's what I would go with. Then I'm not going to tell you one way or another. I want you to do what you feel is comfortable, what you feel you can achieve in a certain you know whatever, certain amount of time it should give you, and then go to the next step. After that, that's outside of your comfort zone, that you think okay, now I feel this is good, let's go over here. But, once again, don't overanalyze it.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Once you have that, once you have that minimum viable product to put out there, put it out there, then start getting feedback from that from other people and build it out from there. Does that make sense? Yeah, okay, so yeah, I would definitely put that together. Okay, what else we got here? Don't fear the short form, it's just different. I know it's, it's people like us. We have so much information that we want to give out that putting it in a minute is virtually impossible.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's my problem.
Speaker 1:Trust me, I know because I'm actually going through the very same thing that you're going through. As far as that's concerned, when I found out, the more and more I actually pinpoint things down to a minute, the more easier it's going to get for me. Instead of giving like 15 minutes of information, give it to them one minute at a time and take it down into chunks, so it's easier to manage, it's easier to say and you actually get a more of a chain of what you're actually trying to say. The more content that you have out there, the better your chances are going to be to be found.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So you could even use the sticky note for for short form stuff. What can I talk about in a minute? Boom, boom boom, boom, boom boom. Okay, yes, that goes with that. So I've done that.
Speaker 2:I've done that a little bit with with chat, gpt is put in and said okay, give me 30 topic here's. You know, wrote out a whole paragraph, give me 30 titles of potential videos based off of this. And so then I have a list of 30 titles. So I'm not having it write my content for me, but it gives me 30 title and okay, now, which of these do I actually like? Because some of it's I don't like. But okay, which of these? And then and then. So I've done that, I've definitely done that with some of it to try to do.
Speaker 1:You do, you do, really do 30 titles at once Too many.
Speaker 2:So from I don't necessarily write them all, but then it was me something to look at. And then when I go back and I'm like, okay, what do I want to do today? I've got a list of 30 that I'm like, okay, I can pick one of these.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's just my personality, I don't know, but 30 tiles is completely overwhelming for me. You could probably handle it, I probably couldn't. I would probably go 10 and then narrow it down from 10, just because 30 seems very overwhelming to me.
Speaker 2:See, but if I've got 30, then I'm like I've got a month's worth of titles if I like them all.
Speaker 1:As true as that is. There's already some that you say that you cut down to already right.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:There's some that you don't like in that kind of thing Correct, and I'm going to be honest with you, I'm not completely proficient in chat GPT you might be so I don't want to like talk about something. I'm totally not Okay, I don't know, I don't know, that's why I say stuff like this, but I just personally feel that 30 is kind of overwhelming to me. But that's like I said, that's a personal opinion for myself. What are you going to do? But that's a good idea to do. Do that for your short form, so they're a lot easier and more comfortable for you to actually handle. So when you actually do them, you have that in front of you instead of just like, oh, I better do a short, real quick.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So how else do you think we can get clients? I mean, we have some ideas for clients. Now we have possibly a podcast getting through getting clients through podcasts. You're I'm going to call it a questionnaire, but I know you have a different name for it, but that is a great way. I would definitely stick. I would go ahead with that. If you haven't done it already, and if you have done it in your private group, go out to your public group and that kind of thing. Tell me about the different levels of clients that you're looking for, because it sounds like to me you have a bunch of different levels. Is there somewhere in those three levels that you're actually comfortable with, like super, super comfortable with?
Speaker 2:So I'm super comfortable in any of the levels I have. So I've got a variety of different things. So I have one on one. They just want emotion release. They don't really want to be coached, they want to come in, have a quick session, let's clear the emotions and be done Right. So I have. So I do that in six session packages usually. But that's not a whole lot of coaching Like. That's just really like come in, we do this, we're done. Then coaching wise, I have a eight week group coaching program that I like to have 12 to 15, no more than 15 people in the group. 10 to 15 is a good, it's a good spot. So I've got a group coaching program that's eight weeks long I have, and then I have one on one coaching. I have a 14 session over 28 weeks. So, because it's every other week, one on one session, so six, six months. And then I have a nine month program where it is eight. So those are every other week. Then I have a nine month program where it's eight weeks, eight weeks straight, you know eight weeks in a row, and then the last 14 weeks are the last 14 sessions go into the every other week. So those first eight weeks are really intense and then we go into every other week as we space it out, so they get 22 sessions. So those are. Those are my breakdowns of how of of the coaching that I, that I do for the mindset pieces of it and I'm comfortable with all of them.
Speaker 1:Good, that's good. I don't mean interrupt, but I want to make sure I get this style and it's gone. If you had to choose one of those coaching sections that you're talking about right now and put the other two away for a while, which one would it be?
Speaker 2:It would be the one-on-one either the six months or the nine months that I would hold on to. But there's only so many of those that I can handle at a time, which is why the group coaching. I like the group coaching when I can fill groups because it's more bang for my buck, but the group coaching is a very different feel. So I really love the one-on-one with people. I do like my groups. I mean I have a group going right now and it's an awesome group. We have a lot of fun, but it's different. That is a starting point for people. My goal for those people that go through the group is because they're not quite sure what they're going to get out of coaching with me and so it gives them eight weeks of a taste of what we're doing and we do mindset stuff. I combine all the things in and each group looks a little bit different. The group that I have right now is all totally open to the energy work. So it started really around the Habit Finder and the mindset pieces of that and going through that. There's a curriculum that goes through that and we're diving into that curriculum. But they're all open to the mindset pieces. So our last session we spoke, the first 15 minutes of it was on that and in their last hour and a half we were diving into energy work and doing some energy clearing and some shifting and some redefining words and a whole bunch of really cool stuff. Not every group is open to that, so it depends on who's there and what they want. Sometimes I do groups. I can do groups for a business. If somebody has a team, the whole team can take the Habit Finder assessment and we can look at it and say OK, in your team we can see that all the 75% of you think this way and teams not growing. Well, that's because you guys think this way. How can we? And so I can do specific trainings based off of that towards that team. So that's not going to end up in energy work. That's going to all end up mindset and training towards a team. It's also super fun, you know it's it's. It's also different. So I get, like I said, I get more bang for my buck doing the group, but it's a different. It's a different vibe than when I've got the one on one and we can really dive in to what somebody needs.
Speaker 1:So great explanation of everything. I like it. I'm actually just starting my own kind of group sessions myself, literally just starting out. Like it. I guess more bang for your buck, but it doesn't sound like it's really where you want to be. It's just it's not about the money. I mean, I'm sure you understand that, but you really really haven't pinned down the answer to my question.
Speaker 2:Which is? Which one would I cut out?
Speaker 1:Which one, which one group would you keep and let the other two go? Because I hear one on one, but I hear one on one with the six, the six week group and then this one on one group. What I'm saying is you need to just pick one.
Speaker 2:So I would probably do the longer one. I mean, that's where people really get the biggest transformation. I also know, financially that's a harder sell for people because it's a much more. You know. I mean they're getting nine months one on one with me, so that's a much bigger sticker shock for people, you know. So, when I'm trying to connect with new people, yes, that's where I would love everybody to go into, that I think that's where they're going to benefit the most. But when I'm looking to connect with new people and they don't have a good connection with me yet, they don't really know what I can do yet, what they're going to get out of it, and they hear the sticker, the price of my one on one coaching, and they're going to be more likely to say, well, let me try the group and see where that goes over eight weeks and how I do, and I have a pretty good conversion rate from group to one on one. The people that are with me one on one, though and I have a nice handful of people that are doing the longer one on one coaching with me but they're people that I've known for a while and they're people that I already have a relationship with. I've gone, gone through that like trust factor. You know, respect, all that. That. They're the ones that come to me all the time and, okay, I know what you do, I know that you can help me shift. It's a different piece, you know. Some of them have gone through previous group coaching programs with me, so it's a different place. It's that's a relationship building thing. Okay so that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Makes perfect sense. Thank you for that, because that's exactly what I was looking for. What I know I'm not telling you, hey, you need to cut everybody out and just do this one. I wanted to see where you're I'm going to call it zone of genius lies when it comes to your clients. So, instead of cutting it all out, because that's not going to happen, because it's part of your process I understand that we all have a process. There's steps that we need to take to get people to that point, but I'm saying maybe you should concentrate on that last part a little bit harder than anything else, because that's where your zone of genius is. If you were to tell me that your zone of genius, or what you would actually keep, is the group coaching, then I would tell you then you need to concentrate on the group coaching more. So I from what you're telling me.
Speaker 2:So and I like that, and I hear that my question is my group coaching is my entry into the other? So do I focus more on and I'm still tweaking, like I've every group of my group coaching. It shifted a little bit how I, how I run them and I learn with each one that I do, I learn how to do them better and and sort of that. Like the one, the group that I have right now which I do, the one that I have right now which I love, that is open to doing both pieces, like that, I do sort of feel like I'm when I'm running those groups, I'm definitely in zone of genius because I am doing, I'm doing the things that I love, right when you know and I'm and I'm really combining all of those in. And the question is do I put that focus hardcore there to build those groups and to have a bunch of those groups running because they're my feet, are into my long term Right? If I have, if I, let's say, I have, 10 people in the group and two of them become long term clients out of that, that would be a pretty good conversion rate in my world, in my thought, you know, to come into, you know an $8000 package. That would be, you know, that would be, you know, to have two of them come into after they finish it. But if I am running multiple groups at a time, which theoretically I can do right now I'm not right right now I'm running one at a time but theoretically I could have five groups going at a time. I could run, have a group session Monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday. I get a five groups running at a time. I have that with 50 people in there that then convert out to people into a long term program.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So is the focus to really focus in and hone in and build those, those groups, or is the focus to say no, run one or two groups at a time and hone in and try to bring on other people that are already ready to jump into the bigger package?
Speaker 1:When you work in your zone of genius, you're going to be a lot more efficient at it than when you were not working in your zone of genius. That's what I'm saying, I love my group. Yeah.
Speaker 2:The people in them would know that that, like they, they feel like they're getting my zone of genius.
Speaker 1:But are you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so when I'm in there, when I'm in and I'm running them, yes, because that's just. I just go into coach mode, right? So yeah, I do think they get the same. I've got some people in my current one that I scratch my head at and I'm like I shouldn't have let you in this group like there's a few of those. But it's, you know you can only do some. You know you can only. And there are people that I have said this isn't right for you and those you know. Some of those people weed themselves out and that's okay part of the way through. Whatever, they don't weed themselves but it's. But I do. You know it's the same whether I'm working with a group or whether I'm working one on one. What they get from me in the session is probably equal.
Speaker 1:So it sounds like to me you would be more apt to to serve first, before getting people into that last part, that that ultimate. I call it five to 10. That's what that's I've been putting, that there's a zero to one, which is basically your, your groups. There's a one to five, which is your middle people, and then it's your five to 10 who is your high, high ticket people. Are you more interested in serving first than you are serving? You know, putting energy, more energies, into the five to 10.
Speaker 2:Probably.
Speaker 1:Probably.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I mean, I can, I feel like I'm, I feel like I will convert more into the bigger group. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Money aside. Let's put money aside just for a second. Conversions, this and that, and just let's put all that aside for just a second. Who would you rather serve?
Speaker 2:That's a good question. I don't know. I love the people that are in the groups, Some of them. I mean it's a different caliber of person. It's a different caliber of person that's going to invest 997 to be in an eight week group versus the caliber of person who's going to invest $8,000 to do nine months worth of coaching. It's different. It's a different. You have a different someone who's willing to, and even $1,000 for some of these people is a lot, but for many of them it's a stretch. It's a different.
Speaker 1:It is different, it's a different caliber of people, but we have to put the money thing aside just for a second and decide who we want to serve. Those are going to be the people that you want to concentrate on is the people that you want to serve most because they're going to bring you the most happiness, they're going to bring you the most abundance, because they're in that zone that you want to be in Right. So that's the decision you have to make.
Speaker 2:I'm not asking for, I'm not going to ask for a decision now. I like both. I really do Like. I really like both pieces. I like serving people. For me, I like seeing when people make this shift in their life. Right, like that to me when I get the messages oh my gosh, what you just said or what you just did made such a big difference. Like, whether they've paid me a dime or not, I don't care Right, that's what I'm here for. I'm here to help people make a shift in their life. So, whether it happens in a group, whether it happens one on one, you know that's what I love to do. So I reach more people with the groups. If I can fill the groups, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the thing too.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So that's something I want you to think about. I'm not, like I said, I'm not asking for an answer now, but that is definitely something I think. I think, if you're able to niche down to the people that you want to serve most, it's going to be better for you in the long run, it's going to make you happier because you're working in that area, that you know you're doing your best, right. So OK, and what else do I? Got here for you, that's. That's pretty much it. I want to. I want to bounce things back to you real quick and see if I can answer any other questions that you possibly have. OK about what we've talked about.
Speaker 2:And I don't think so Now. I got a lot to think about.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry about that, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, it's good. I like a lot to think about. Are you kidding that's?
Speaker 1:OK.
Speaker 2:Why work? That's our role. I think things and I oh no, I totally roll that way. I love to have a lot to think about and let it process and percolate, and you know, and then all of a sudden boom, like I cannot, my poor web design, because I like I'll have conversations like this and I'll go to and I'm like oh Lord, I mean this, this, this, this, this, this. Now I'm just like are you kidding me?
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 2:No idea what you was getting into with me when we first started this.
Speaker 1:That sounds very familiar, got to tell you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so no, no, I think it's good. I know I do, I know I do. I have a lot to think about. I've got to you know how to to start to put some of this stuff Inversion and to prioritize it. Ok some of the action steps that we talked about. How would you prioritize? How would I?
Speaker 1:prioritize. You're asking me personally. Yes, ok, so I would. I would prioritize where I put my heart the most, where I love to be. It's basically it's where my zone of genius is, my zone of genius. It's really hard because I'm still kind of looking for some of it, but we're in my zone right now. This is where I love to be. This is I like to talk to people, I like to help them, kind of similar to what you're doing in your own, kind of similar to what you're doing in your practice Helping with the knowledge that I've accumulated over the last three years of literally just listening to, to podcasts and audiobooks for eight hours a day for the last three years. Because where I work at there's nobody. That bothers me, nobody, you know, bugs me or anything. So I stick a ear pod in and I educate myself as much as my brain can expand and then use that information to help other people. Ultimately, I am working actually working on a course for myself right now too, which actually includes starting a podcast. So when I get that out, I want to give that to you for free, because I want to see how you know it's going to be in the beta form, so I want you to see, see how you, what you think. When that comes out. So awesome, all right, so do me a favor.
Speaker 2:So when you started it like, go ahead, yeah, so I'm going to start with a podcast, did you just do? I just start like just record them and stick them up on YouTube, like where you know what's the best way to just start getting that content out there.
Speaker 1:Well, as far as where to put it, that's up to you. Where are you most comfortable? Are you comfortable with just doing audio? Are you comfortable with doing video? Are you comfortable blogging?
Speaker 2:I'm comfortable with video.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're comfortable with video, so start on YouTube. Yeah, so start on YouTube. They actually literally just, probably about a month or so ago, put a section in for YouTube podcasts so you could actually have a sex on it's just podcast. So that's where I would probably get started at. I also use a tool called the script, and what that does is it, when I'm done with my recording, I throw it in there and it actually does my transcriptions, my video and my audio all at once, all in one shot. So it saves me a ton of time when I do when I do that. So if you, want to look into that. That's a possibility that it might be. I don't know if that's a little head right now where you want to be at, but you know I'm here to help If you have any questions about it. It sounds like you already got somebody helping you out as far as a podcast goes, but I'm still here if you need me.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean the person I'm talking to. He has a company that they do all the stuff. So I don't know if I need excuse me. I don't know if I need a company to do it or if it's just stuff that I can easily do myself. I mean, I got a lot on my plate so I'm open to you know, maybe be able to do it. I mean, people help me do it.
Speaker 1:If you want, if you want to and there's nothing bad about taking shortcuts but if you want to take the shortcut and get there faster than yes, go with the company it took. It took me a little while to get where I'm at for my podcast, because I had the extra time and I just felt like luring it on my own. Plus, I didn't have the money to pay somebody else to help me. Right, I probably would have Most of what I learned about podcasting I learned on watching YouTube, watching a gentleman named Pat Flynn, and he basically taught me how to podcast for free by watching his YouTube videos. Why not?
Speaker 2:Great.
Speaker 1:Two things I want. I want you to look into books, if you haven't done it already because I haven't asked you yet. Number one is a book written by Pat Flynn named Superfans, and it's basically a step by step way to get people from just listening to you and learning who you are all the way up to people that'll buy everything that you, that you got, and basically step by step, how to you know go about that, different ways of accomplishing that goal. The other one I think you might have already I'm not 100% sure called the Big Leap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, good.
Speaker 1:I'm such a huge fan of that book I think people like us probably write it a few times. So, okay, cool. So the one that the one then is definitely Superfans, because that's going to help you, that's definitely going to help you with your podcast and that's actually going to help you with the outreach that you're looking for.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm going to order it tonight.
Speaker 1:There you go, I have it on my website, thank you, okay, all right, I need from you three takeaways that we've talked about today or tonight, or whatever. Your perception of time is three things that you took away from our conversation.
Speaker 2:Thank you that I need to, you know, get over my fears, stop letting them control me and start taking the actions that I know, that I know that I need to take, that I've been saying for a long time. Starting the podcast, I'm going to realize your sticky note idea and start to get my thoughts organized and I'm going to start working on who is my for the podcasting, who is that avatar both my avatar, so do I want to talk to and who do I want on it? Those are my big three, three starting points. And then next I got to. I got to really hone in and figure out where what, what I want to focus on with my offer stacks and what I want to be pushing people to go into.
Speaker 1:So all right, I can't before. All right Now, besides, I know, because it's late. So, besides going to bed, what is the one thing you're going to do right after we get off this call, besides go to bed and wake up tomorrow morning?
Speaker 2:I'm going to order this book Super fans, and that's I will probably just to. I'm going to jot down some of the notes, that some of the stuff that we were just talking about, so that I don't forget them in the morning. So take a few notes and do a little bit of a brain dump and then I'm going to. I was talking about my frequent season tones. I'm going to run my inner voice phones and listen to those for a little while to help my brain sort of settle, and then I'm going to go bed. There, you go.
Speaker 1:You don't sleep, do you? You're like me, we just don't sleep. What's the point?
Speaker 2:I don't sleep enough.
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