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Ever dreamt of starting your own business? Sky did, and she's turning that dream into a reality. On this episode of Undiscovered Entrepreneur Coaching Addition, we delve into the highs and lows of entrepreneurship. Sky, a budding entrepreneur with aspirations of owning her own bakery, shares her journey - the struggles, triumphs, fears, and joys.
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Welcome to the Undiscovered Entrepreneur, the podcast where brand new entrepreneurs come to life and could quite possibly be discovered. Join me, dj Scoob and the rest of the Scoob believers as we help these new businesses become a reality. And now away we go. We now join DJ Scoob in the coaching of Sky, owner of Sky's Kitchen Adventures Facebook Group, already in progress. I've seen your stuff being posted on TikTok and a few other places. All that's great. I really like what you're putting out so far.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. I think I'm gaining weight. Just looking at your food that you've been posting. It's amazing, it looks really good, yeah that. So what I'd like to know here is you have a coach in front of you Okay, hard to believe, but but so what I'd like to know is you, I, you have me for two hours auto, all already, okay. So I want you to utilize the two hours as much as you possibly can and ask me questions that you're interested in how you're starting a business, what you've come across so far, and things of that nature. So just kind of give me a rundown at what you actually want to accomplish with your, with your baking, and we'll go from there.
Speaker 1:Okay, absolutely. Um, I think what I want to accomplish is I'd like it to grow. I wanted to stay in my home and I'd like to kind of create my own hours, because I am very busy. Like I said, I'm in school and I work still too. So trying to make that work, time management wise, is going to be a struggle, I think, and also keeping up on social media. I'm still trying to figure out how to do all of that and make it very like fluid and all work together without driving myself crazy, having to post a whole lot of stuff, and I think there was one thing that I really wanted to talk to you about is I did not. There's, there's a very like psychological side to selling something that you consider to be kind of like your art, you know yes. And it's hard to open yourself up to people about that and like take criticism and advice and recognize that you know other people are really knowledgeable as well. That was probably that's been the hardest part so far, because I've always kind of struggled with knowing what advice to take and what to just rush off, you know? That's kind of where I'm wanting to start now.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool. Is there anything else you want to talk about in this conversation that you might want to get off? You know, kind of figure out.
Speaker 1:Honestly, just the basics of business, because I don't know. I don't know anything. I know the, I know the laws of Missouri for cottage bakeries and that's about it. I went to business school for a semester and I did not finish it, it was way over my head. So I just want whatever knowledge you have. I would highly appreciate whatever you think would be useful to me.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we got learning the basics. We got the psychological part of it sounds like positive and negative input on your, on your art and what you do, because I do consider what you do as an art. Thank you for 100%, because I burn water, you know. So it's so scheduling time is is something I'd live and I'd like to talk about, because I don't know if you remember what I go through. But I don't just work at the hospital, I also work at the, at the restaurant, and I still do this and I still do my podcast.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't think I knew that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I keep myself really busy, but timing is important, that's okay. Puppies I like puppies.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:This is real life sky. It's okay, I understand. Okay, they're crazy. Scheduling time is really stringent for me, so I can maybe pass on along some of that, some of that information to you.
Speaker 1:Yes that would be great.
Speaker 2:Learning to grow in the home at first. Okay, because it's not going to stay in the home once it actually builds up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean honestly that would be awesome If I had the time for that would be like a dream.
Speaker 2:Tell me, tell me about that dream. What do you want? Where do you want this to end up? Where you know you've made it? What's that final thing?
Speaker 1:If I were to be honest, I was loved to own a bakery and run it with my husband and stay in this town. I've lived in Rees, missouri, my whole life and it'd be pretty cool to give back to the community a little bit and just have have that good customer base of people that I know love my stuff. And right now it feels very unrealistic because, like I said, I am in school and I have other goals too, but I don't feel quiet is connected to them, you know. So it's a kind of a scary, scary time right now.
Speaker 2:Yes, you're going into unknown territory.
Speaker 1:Exactly. It's a very odd feeling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, trust me, I know, I felt that many times the same thing. Yes, it's very common. Don't feel like you're on your own feeling these feelings and these emotions about you know, what am I going to do? What do I? What happens next? What am I doing with this, even though I'm doing this at the same time? These are all common fears that people have, so don't feel like you're on your own doing this.
Speaker 1:Okay, thank you, that makes me feel a lot better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what else? Is there anything else that you want to cover?
Speaker 1:Um, this kind of goes into the basics of business, I think. But so far I've technically made like $1.
Speaker 2:It's only been a couple of weeks at least, I'm not behind, like I'm not negative.
Speaker 1:I just want to know, like, if that's normal and how long that process could take before. I need to know, like if I should keep pursuing it or I don't know, does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it makes perfect sense. Actually, my first income I made online was $15.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:So, even a dollar, you know, what I would even do is take a dollar. It doesn't have to be the exact dollar I made, but, you know, do like I think I've seen in shops and stuff where first dollar ever made to put it up at a frame and that kind of thing. You know, just so you know that this is the beginning, this is where it starts, right. So, yeah, that's awesome. I'm actually, you know, as funny as it sounds, I'm glad you made a dollar on what you're doing.
Speaker 1:Thank you, that's gonna be like I've sold stuff but then I have to buy so much stuff to get going. So yeah, $1 profit. But I'm just proud of myself.
Speaker 2:As well. You should be as silly as it sounds. You really should be proud of that dollar.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think my my virtual mentor, pat Flynn, his first sale he made was $1.23,. I think he said Nice, so you know, we all start from zero, right we? Don't just go out of the gate and start making millions of dollars. It just doesn't happen that way. We all start from zero. We all have to start from somewhere. So that's that's not a bad thing, that's actually a good thing. So Right.
Speaker 1:Okay anything else that you want?
Speaker 2:to cover.
Speaker 1:I think that might cover everything right now. I'm sure more stuff will come up as I go down the road, but it will.
Speaker 2:If you have a question that that pops into your head, don't wait for me, okay, okay, because a lot of times especially what happens with me I'll have a question and then I'll say, oh, I'll wait until there's I'm talking, and then I'll forget what the question was, right. That happens, I'm very glad you said that, because I'm terrible at that. Yeah, so if if you have a question or something comes to mind that's really important to you, just wave me off, or just, or something, okay. Okay, I will wait for you. You are the most important thing in this conversation right now, so don't be afraid to to blur something out, or or have a question and just stop me from talking, okay, so don't? I just want to make sure we set that rule for you.
Speaker 1:Sounds good to me. I have ADHD, so that that happens a lot, whether I try to or not. Oh, okay. So, everybody said that.
Speaker 2:It's a work I'll find then.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So the first thing I want to talk about and this is probably one of the biggest things I talk about in my podcast or anywhere else is fear. Fear is the one thing that that really kind of puts a hurdle in front of us, because we're not sure what's on the other side of that hurdle. Right, we're not sure where it's going to lead us hurt or anything like that. So one of the things I talk about is an acronym for fear. Okay, so it's F E A? R, that's high spell fear, false evidence appearing real.
Speaker 1:Oh, I like that. I'm going to write that down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, write that down right there. Yeah, false evidence appearing real. Now, a lot of the fears that we have in our entrepreneur adventure aren't actually physical fears. They're not fears like we're being attacked by a stable toothed tiger or something like that. Those are primal fears, but they're fears that we used to use to protect ourselves and that's still ingrained in our and our body and our minds that we need to protect ourselves from things that we fear. So these fears that you have aren't actually fears at all. They're just false evidence. You don't know what's going to happen when you do the side, so they're evidence that's false and they appear very real to you because they're what's you know, they're what you're experiencing. There's these your emotions that you're feeling in these fears. So they're false evidence appearing real. So, when it comes to fear, for me personally, instead of being something that I'm going to shy away from because I'm scared of it, if I'm scared of it, that means I need to do it. Yeah, I like that because if you're scared of it, it means because you're experiencing something you've never experienced before, and the only way you're going to know what's going to be on the other side of that experience is to go experience it Right. Yeah, even if it's wrong, it's something that we learn from when we move on to something else, because we learn from every failure that we have. Failure is not a bad thing. I don't care what they tell you in school, I don't care how many F's and D's you get in school. Okay, failure is good because it means you're learning.
Speaker 1:Thank you, I needed to hear that.
Speaker 2:I think A lot of people do, a lot of people do, and it's ingrained in our minds that failure is bad because you didn't accomplish this or whatever. But instead of thinking failure is something that you didn't accomplish, think of it as okay. I failed, why did I fail? What do I need to learn from that failure? To go on to experience my next experience? And, as you have those failures, you learn more and you learn more and you learn more, and everything comes around Right.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So when you have those situations, those problems, those pitfalls, those failures, don't throw your hands up in the air and say, hey, you know, I'm done, I'm not going to do this anymore. Right, Think of it the other way. Think of it in a positive way. Okay, I had a failure. Failure is going to happen. You could talk to any entrepreneur Failure is going to. I guarantee failure has happened. What you do with those failures is what makes you the person that you are and moves you on to the next level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that resonates with me a lot, my first week of starting the business. I had been baking for a while and everything was going great. And then I made some cinnamon rolls and I don't know what happened. They just weren't rising. It wasn't working right. I was through it, my hands and I was like I messed it up. I don't know what I did, but I messed it up and my husband told me to just wait and just see what happens, and they wound up being the best cinnamon rolls that I had made so far but, it was so good, so that actually that makes a lot of sense to me. And then I've made plenty of things so far that they just don't turn out right and it does make me want to quit, because I'm a perfectionist, it's really hard for me to fail, so that was really important for me to hear. I think. So, thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, perfection is not a bad thing, but it can stifle you.
Speaker 1:It does.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think just about everybody experiences that too where it's got to be perfect before I do anything. It's got to be perfect before I move it out. It's got to be perfect before I take the shot, it's got to be perfect before I do whatever. But that perfection is going to eventually be stagnant. You're going to want everything to be so perfect that you're not putting anything out.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But the only way you're going to learn anything is to ship it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just give it a shot.
Speaker 2:Give it a shot, see what happens, get feedback from it. You know what do you think? Oh, this is great, but I could have done this. Okay, now you know you can do this and it'll be even better.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that kind of thing. So you know, be a perfectionist, but only to a point. Don't let it stall you in what you're doing. Yeah, there's nothing perfect about what we do here.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Nothing's perfect Okay.
Speaker 1:Right you could listen.
Speaker 2:I mean, you were with me when I started my podcast. You know who I was when I first started. If you listen to my episode zero up to now, you can hear imperfections all the way up. Okay, right, but for me to be able to get to this, where I'm at now, I needed to start down here. I needed to have those imperfections so I could see what would change, what I can do different. And now I have music, I have my sound a little bit better, I have a few sponsors, things along those lines where you could. Now the only way I was able to get those is to start with those imperfections I have here.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I a podcaster. John Lee Dumas said you have to be a disaster before you're a master.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that I got to write that down soon. That's great.
Speaker 2:So you got to be a disaster before you're a master. So don't be afraid to be that disaster, because that's what's going to teach you what you need to do to move on to the next level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wanted to tell you I was listening to that your podcast episode the other day about. To be sorry, I got to write this down, write it down.
Speaker 2:Do that first.
Speaker 1:Yes, the one you suggested I listen to. Sorry, I forgot the word that it was about.
Speaker 2:Was it the zone of genius one?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, thank you.
Speaker 2:I always suggest that way yeah.
Speaker 1:And he said that he really liked the music. And it's funny because I was like, oh yeah, that is really good. But I hadn't. I was just listening, I didn't notice. I was like, oh, that was a brilliant move, because he's like that sounds really great. But I just wanted you to know that.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that. Yeah, I took a long time to find that music, but it really did. It really did enhance what I do, just so I could get people's attention, because that music's basically gets you into that happy mood where you're ready to listen to whatever is next.
Speaker 1:So, yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, don't be too perfect. I mean, I know you want to be, but don't be perfect. I almost intentionally want you not to be perfect.
Speaker 1:I will try that because it's not. It's not very fun trying to be perfect all the time. Anyway, it's exhausting.
Speaker 2:It is, it really is, and it's going to it will. It can't even burn you out. You're going to want to redo it so many times like I don't want to do this anymore. I've done it five times. It's not turning out the way I wanted to. I don't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, and that's not healthy. We don't want to burn out, we want to improve.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm a little afraid of losing the enjoyment factor of baking through business Cause I know that can happen to people when they turn something they love into a job, that you sort of lose the reason that you loved it in the first place, and I've been trying to kind of keep that from happening. I know I'm so early, but if you know anything about that too, like that would be great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, what? What do you really and what gives you joy? Joy about baking, I mean, what's the one thing that you really could pin down? I do baking because blank.
Speaker 1:Um, honestly, uh, like you know, my mom passed away in March and that first few months was very, very hard. Um, so baking and cooking and stuff is what we used to do together when I was young, when I was a kid, and I had just kind of gotten away from it. So to be able to do it now it gives me something to do to keep me busy, but it also makes me feel like I'm doing something to be closer to her and to also make myself happy, which is pretty much. Her one goal in life was for me and my brothers to be happy, so that's probably the main thing.
Speaker 2:So the baking really is what's bringing. Even though she's passed at this point, the baking is what's bringing you and your mom together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you get that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that actually happens a lot to people with trades. Really, baking is a trade or blacksmithing is a trade or anything. They're doing it because their parents showed them how to do it or their little parents loved, how you know, showed happiness when they did it, so you want to have that same happiness with them. It's kind of an homage to your mother, you know. You want to carry on that legacy of baking because she loved it so much and it's kind of what you kind of embraced with your mother.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. After she passed, all my friends kept asking me like for her recipes, and they were like, oh, I need to have this again, like I love that so much. And it just made me realize how, after she passed, that was the main thing that people remembered about her was all of the delicious food that she made. And it made me realize how food can be so bonding for people. You make so many memories around food and pretty much every event I've been to is around food in some way. So, yeah, it just feels very important to me, I think.
Speaker 2:And for me now I don't, like I said, I don't cook very well, I don't but when I do cook something and I give it to my son or I give it to whoever, and they take that first buy, you see that enjoyment and the happiness just show on their face. That's what really brings me joy with something like that. So at the same time, like when I'm doing something like this and I say something and I see your, your eyes go right or whatever, that's what brings me joy. So I think it's the same thing for you too, I mean yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1:Every everyone that I've given food to so far has been just so incredibly happy, and it's an amazing feeling that I haven't really had a feeling like that before it was great, good.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you talked about I'm going to go on to a different subject here you talked about giving back to your community. Yeah, that was something that kind of struck me a little bit.
Speaker 1:How would you do that? That's a good question. I haven't thought about it much. The only thing that comes to mind right now is there's like a chili cook off that they do once a year in the fall at school, at the Reed Springs School, and I think all the proceeds go to the fire department. But my husband makes delicious chili and in our town you always eat it with cinnamon rolls. It's just they go together. So I thought, oh, that would be a cool place to start. Just make some cinnamon rolls and he makes chili, and that that kind of feels like giving back to my community somehow, because you know we're giving to the fire department. Otherwise, I think if I were to open up a bakery and just see all these people that I've known my whole life you know that I've loved forever just enjoying my food and being happy for me and getting to see where everyone's grown, I think that could be a really cool feeling.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. I love giving back to the community whenever I can.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, I think that's one of the reasons why I work at the hospital, even though it's not, you know, dealing with patients, but I do my part to help others when it comes to that kind of thing.
Speaker 1:So yes, you guys, all of you. I think every person at the hospital gives back somehow. There's not an uninvolved job there at all.
Speaker 2:I'm really interested in this chili cookoff.
Speaker 1:Yes, I need to find the dates, but I want to get in on that.
Speaker 2:What can you do to give back to the community? While you're at the chili cookoff, I mean we can make the cinnamon rolls. What else can we do? What do you think?
Speaker 1:I guess talk to the other people that are making food and talk to the people that come in, kind of like just get to know everybody, because even though it's a small town, there's still tons of people I don't know. Hmm, I'm not sure. Do you have any ideas?
Speaker 2:Well, that's actually a good start. I was actually going to go into something similar to that. So good job Finding out your community and who these people are, because they're all going to be cooks in your community.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So it's going to be a really good learning experience for you to find out the trade. Ask them questions about hey, I'm doing this. What can you tell me? Right, I could tell you about business, but I can't tell you about baking.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right, I can't even do those. No big cookies. I tried to text you about you know. So, yeah, but I think that chili cookoff is going to be a great stepping stone into what you actually want to accomplish. So don't just sit there. Let your husband take over the booth. Don't just sit there and just talk to the people that are walking by. Go out and talk to the other cooks, find out how they started it, Find out how they started their businesses and how they got their licenses and whatever it is that they need to do and learn from them and take. You know, if you want to take a pen and paper with you and write things down, if you want to record their voice on your phone so you could actually listen back to it and see what they told you, because you're not going to remember everything off the top of your head and it's just not going to happen.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I learned that the hard way. That's why I started taking notes, but I think that would be a great place. I never thought to put chili in with cinnamon rolls.
Speaker 1:Oh, you have got to try it. That's what the lunch ladies always did on chili day at school and everyone in the community does that it and my husband puts it like on the bottom of the bowl and puts the chili on top, but I just eat it on the side. But it is so good, highly suggested.
Speaker 2:All right, I will definitely check that out. All right, so there's also, you know, charities that you can give back to, or you can like say, hey, I'm going to do this bake off and give a certain percentage to charity or whatever. There's other ways to give back to the community to. But to get physically into the community, even if it's a local community, doesn't have to be an online community. I think people to put too much emphasis on online communities now. Yeah they're great and you get out to a lot of people, but I can't hug my computer screen. Right, I can't shake your hand because you're in red springs, but you know that kind of thing. People miss that physical being able to talk to people one on one, and I think the more that you do of that, the more people are going to know who you are, the more they're going to remember who you are, because that'd be important too, because if they hear, hey, do you do cinnamon rolls? No, I don't do chili, but I know somebody that does.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It's funny to say that because already all of the people at work I can tell that they just associate me with cinnamon rolls now, because every person that sees me at work is like, oh, those look so good. It's so funny because it's like that's just how they perceive me now and that's a pretty good thing to be perceived as, I suppose. So, yeah, if I could get that.
Speaker 2:It actually goes right into another word, branding.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:This is going to be how you build your brand. People are going to know you for cinnamon rolls. Yeah, do you have to do a lot of other baking things? Not necessarily. You can actually stick to cinnamon rolls and build a business around cinnamon rolls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:You know you don't have to. I call that niching down, where you niche down to one specific thing you're really really good at and then use that as your stepping stone into other things.
Speaker 1:Makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2:So like I mean, there's cinnamon, I don't want to Cinnabon, okay, I don't, but they are. You don't go to Cinnabon to get a hammer, right, right. You go to Cinnabon to get a cinnamon roll.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I could see the same thing with you, because they use the cinnamon roll as their branding. They use that as their main thing. Now, later on, you could probably get into pies and other things, but people are going to walk into your store and want cinnamon rolls and then see what else you do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I've definitely noticed that so far is. I make several other things, but almost every order I make is cinnamon roll or cinnamon bread. That's just what everyone loves and I'm fine with that because that's what I love making.
Speaker 2:Yeah you see how it works.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if I could find more things going off of that. One of my co-workers suggested I make apple cinnamon bread, so I'm looking into trying that and then maybe making them in cupcake like muffin form. So just the same thing in different ways.
Speaker 2:So how does that make you feel when somebody suggests something like that to?
Speaker 1:you Excited.
Speaker 2:It does?
Speaker 1:It makes me think like, oh wow, they're interested in me growing this. Like that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Yes. So if you feel excited about it, that's probably something you probably want to explore. If somebody says something like, hey, can you make an apple pot or something like that, that doesn't bring you that same happy feeling, maybe I'll forgive it a try, but you want to trust your gut when it comes to something like that. Keep with what you know and what makes you happy, because what makes you happy is going to keep you in that zone of genius.
Speaker 1:Zone of genius.
Speaker 2:Yes, if you listen to my episode 25, I talk about the zone of genius and how we could find our zone of genius.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:The book that came from is called the big leap.
Speaker 1:Is that about starting a business?
Speaker 2:No, it's about finding your zone of genius. And finding your zone of genius directly correlates with you and your business, because you want to be in your business to make you happy, just like we talked about earlier. You don't want it to be a job, a J-O-B, so the only way you make sure that you're always happy in that particular thing is to make sure that it stays within your zone of genius. I'll give you a quick example. If you don't mind doing that thing for free, that's what you want to do.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2:Right, if you don't mind doing it for free, like when I do a lot of these coachings or when I do the podcast, I don't charge anybody anything to be on my show. Even though they've asked how much do I charge, I told them that, right, I told them that it's in my zone of genius. I don't mind doing it for free because I love doing it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right. So I see the same thing for you too, in your cinnamon rolls.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, I mean, that's why this kind of started by accident, because I just love baking so much that my house was filled with baked goods and I could not keep them in the house or I would eat them all, and then ingredients are just getting more and more expensive. So I was like, well, maybe I'll just sell a few and that'll at least keep me baking. But it took off a lot quicker and bigger than I expected it to.
Speaker 2:There you go. So then you know you're going down the right path at this particular point.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Good, good, okay. So tell me a little bit more about time. Time seems to be a stroke for just about anybody, especially the entrepreneurs that I talked to. That seems to be one of the most common struggles I have is trying to figure out the time to do this, because right now it's just a side hustle. So you have to fit it into your job, your life, your family, your dogs at your barking back there. Yes, you know, fit in all of this time. So tell me what you do with your time at this particular point. Can you kind of give me a quick rundown?
Speaker 1:Yes, so I just dropped down an extra day at work this semester, so I'm only working three days a week. I work Thursday, friday, saturday, and then I'm a full-time senior in college and all of my classes are upper level, so they're pretty difficult this semester. So I try and bake and then, while stuff is like rising or in the oven, I work on homework and then I won't bake on my work days. So Thursday, friday, saturday I try not to bake for other people on Sundays, only for fun or myself. But it makes me very limited on how many orders I can actually do, especially because I'm just in my house. I have one oven and one mixer and just a couple of bread pans, you know. So it's not like I can make a whole bunch of stuff and my schedule is pretty jam packed because I'm also trying to make time for my friends and for my husband and I go to therapy and all this kind of stuff. It just is a lot of time, yeah. But, I like staying busy, so at least there's that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but don't burn yourself out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Every once in a while you want to take time for yourself, just to be yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And. I think that's what I'm going to try, and keep Sundays as just a need of Canada, don't bake. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Don't don't do the thing that you're trying to work on, because if you try to use and I'm running into this problem myself, so just so you know but if you start in your off time that you set aside for yourself doing the thing that you're supposed to be doing for your business, it's going to become more.
Speaker 1:That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2:Because now, not only are you putting time aside for your business, but you're using your business in your off time. And now you know, basically just extending what you're doing, right, you got to be able to reset your mind and clean out the clutter, right, so you have room for the new stuff, right? I know that's kind of what you put it, but that's kind of how I do it. So when you do set that time for yourself, do something else that's not work related or baking related. Try to find a past time or just something else.
Speaker 1:You care if we pause for a second. I'm going to go get my dog.
Speaker 2:So, like for me, for example, I'm learning to play guitar Awesome so I take 15 minutes every day and sit down with my guitar and just do scales.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:And this is my time to turn off my editing brain or the side that's kind of trying to keep track of everything and open up my creative brain.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Once you open up the creative brain, it's going to work a lot better for you when you're doing things you know creatively. I don't know, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The other thing it does for you too, and this gets a little bit physical. But when you learn something new, every time you learn something new. You this is a little physical, but you grow new synapses in your brain, right? So when you grow new synapses in the brain, it's not just for the new thing that you're learning, but it frees up space in your brain for everything else to go through as well too. So things start becoming more clear. Your ideas are coming faster. Your ideas are a lot more clear when you do have ideas and you're more willing to act on those ideas because you have the energy to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:So one of the things I always talk about is not just like business, like this, but at the same time including the physical part of your brain. So, for example, not just learning new things, but eating specific types of things to help your brain stay clear. So, for example, any kind of fruits that have edible skins, like blueberries, is huge for me. I do a lot of blueberry eating, grape peaches anything that has that edible skin actually increases the gray matter in your brain.
Speaker 1:Wow, I never knew that.
Speaker 2:So what happens when you increase the gray matter in your brain? It's kind of like paving the roads to go smoother.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:So it's having the business isn't just about the business itself, but it's keeping your mind improved and moving correctly so you can have those ideas, so you can have those moments, so you can have those aha moments that you're thinking about, because if your brain is full of junk and cloudy all the time, you're not going to have those ideas because it physically can't happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes a lot of sense and I definitely keep my brain pretty cluttered.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too. But I've noticed over the last two years I've been doing, you know, changing my eating habits for that to have a better brain, kind of chemistry. I've turned into a whole different person. My energy levels are higher, my ideas are a lot more clear. So I always try to instill that to all my new entrepreneurs, even on my podcast that being able to take care of your brain is probably the most important thing, because if you don't have that, you're not going to have those ideas to make yourself a better entrepreneur.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that. It makes a lot of sense because your brain is an organ just like any other thing, and it can get sick and it can get better too. You just got to take care of it.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:Food is hard for me, like especially baking, because it's delicious foods. It's hard to stop yourself, you know.
Speaker 2:So I just taste a little and then the other way to combat a lot of that, too, is gut health. So including gut health in that too, so getting things like the right type of bacteria in your stomach. There's a good bacteria and bad bacteria in your stomach. Increasing the good bacteria will help everything.
Speaker 1:How do you do that?
Speaker 2:So the way you do, that is, you can take in good bacteria by drinking things like kabucha. Oh okay. Okay, kabucha is full of good bacteria. Nice Drinking teas is good Anything to just increase the good bacteria in your stomach, which means all your food will digest a lot better, which means you're going to get as many nutrients as possible on the foods you eat, because your stomach is good, right.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So that's another thing too. To work on too is kind of increasing the good bacteria in your stomach.
Speaker 1:Okay, that makes a lot of sense. I think I've read about that online some and I'm like thinking it has a lot of good benefits, but I've never really known how to do that, so very cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Research it right. You know, one time or another, If you're sitting at lunch, pull your phone out. Instead of putting up YouTube and watching the latest whatever video, pull up a video on how to increase your gut gut health. That's what I do at the hospital.
Speaker 1:I will Awesome yeah.
Speaker 2:Learn. It's all about learning, not just about entrepreneurship, but learn about your body, because your body is what is, what kind of gets you through everything. So if your body is not what we're doing, what it's supposed to, you're not going to be able to succeed in entrepreneurship, because you are everything.
Speaker 1:Right, you actually make a good point about lunch, because we are talking about time management. At Walmart you get an hour lunch and most of the time I'm done eating in like 15 minutes and then I just scroll through Facebook. But that is time that I could definitely be using for better things, I'm sure, or sometimes I'll just take a nap or something, but it'd be cool to, you know, maybe use that time for something more beneficial.
Speaker 2:I've been where I'm at for going on three years now. I think I've turned my television on twice.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:I think one of them was for a Super Bowl and the other one I can't remember what it was, but it's the only time I've ever turned my television on.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:And it's because, instead of using that time sitting down and mindlessly looking at the square, I'm doing my podcast, I'm editing my podcast, I'm talking to new people, I'm learning about the newest things about AI, and it's opportunity that people normally waste from watching something that's completely mindless, that has nothing to do with anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. My husband and I spend a lot of time watching TV and it does feel very voiceful sometimes.
Speaker 2:You will find that you will gain more time by turning that television off at a specific time of day and going to do something else constructive than not. Yeah, hold on a second, that's okay, I'm so sorry, that's okay. All right, so I would actually have you do maybe a time. Let's see how. Do I want to put this Chart your time on a daily basis. Do that for like a week or two At this time. Between this time and this time I was doing this. Between this time and this time I was at work. Between this time and this time I took lunch. It's stock of your time.
Speaker 1:That's actually really smart.
Speaker 2:And then, after you take stock of your time for about a week or so, look for the holes Between this time and this time I was watching television. Well, I could have cut that time in half and spend the rest of that time researching blah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I could have spent this time and this time watching a YouTube video on something constructive.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know things like that, Because that's what I do in my lunch breaks. That's what I do in my regular breaks. You haven't seen me at the hospital. I mean doing that, but that's what I'm doing. A lot of people wonder why I'm on my phone so much. I'm not DMing my best friend asking what they had for dinner last night.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I'm researching the next-based scenario for me to put a class together.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Something like that. So take stock of that time, and I think that once you actually take stock and realize where you're gaining time and where you're losing time, you'll be more efficient in actually doing what you want to accomplish.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because I'm sure that so much of my time is wasted scrolling through social media. I mean, I imagine it would be shocking if I really knew how much it was.
Speaker 2:But if you eventually will still find yourself doing that, it's a good.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right. So what I do is, when I find myself actually doom, scrolling I think that's what we call it. Instead of just scrolling and looking at stuff, I'll actually start liking and responding to things that resonate with me.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So when you do that, the algorithm I actually literally just explained this like two hours ago to my last coaching session the algorithm will pick that up that you're being social on the social media Right. When they pick that up, they're going to push your stuff out to more people because they realize that you're on the platform and actually interacting with other people.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I've noticed TikTok does that as I comment on people's stuff, I see their stuff way more like your stuff and baking stuff. I see mostly that and I'm like, oh okay, that's pretty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the more that you start liking and reacting to other people's stuff, the more likely the algorithm is going to pick you up. So if you do find yourself doom scrolling instead of just literally doom scrolling, you have to do things.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, all right, I'm going to. I'm so sorry. I'm going to go get my house.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we're going to keep going here. Okay so, yeah, so do that, take stock of your time, see where you can actually start kind of self educating and then, yeah, and you'll start growing. You'll start growing because you'll take that education, that self education that you have for yourself, and using it and realizing that, hey, I can do this. So education is really really, really important when it comes to, when it comes to entrepreneurship. Self education is probably one of the most important things that I talk about in my podcast. So then I'm going to kind of incorporate that back into the basics of how to start a business real quick. So you're actually started it already. Whether you know it or not, you actually started it already.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So getting getting known is probably one of the hardest things to do in in any kind of entrepreneurship. And you're doing it already, nice, right. So doing the postings, going out into public things of that nature, you're doing great. The next step after that's going to be up to you. So what would you like to see now that we say, let's just say, we're known? Now, what do you want to do after that?
Speaker 1:Okay, everybody knows who I am.
Speaker 2:What do you want to do with that? What do you think we should do with that?
Speaker 1:I just want probably to make some sales so that I can keep baking. I would love it if I could potentially make enough that I wouldn't have to work even the three days, if I could go down just two days and then just keeping that community to remembering who I am, because once they know who I am, they have to remember it Right and associate me with that.
Speaker 2:So that's where the branding is going to come in, like we talked about earlier.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You want to keep in front of them so they understand that, hey, I'm still here, even though you haven't bought anything for me for a week still here. So one of the good things and one of the first things that I talk about that everybody else seems to wait on but I don't want you to wait on this is making an email list. So what happens is when you contact somebody and they like your stuff and they actually say possibly buy something from you or maybe get a recipe from you, get their email address.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:As you grow these emails you could actually start sending out like a newsletter or maybe a free recipe or something constantly.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's a great idea.
Speaker 2:Right. So as you're constantly in front of them and emails or whatever, they're going to remember who you are. Because they're going to remember. Oh yeah, she sent me that recipe. Oh, this is a great recipe. I'm so glad she sent this to me. They're going to remember who you are from this.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right. So growing that email list is going to be very crucial and you always want to start that as soon as possible. I'm late to the game, to be honest with you. I've been doing this for two years. I don't have an email list yet.
Speaker 1:But you wish you did.
Speaker 2:I wish I did so. You starting it now, from the very beginning, would be very beneficial for you.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I will remember that.
Speaker 2:So you could do it a couple of ways. You can take a class, which usually there's a cost involved in that, or you could watch YouTube videos, like I did. Learn from that, but learn. Learn how to put together an email list. So the email company that I use collects the emails for me and then all I have to do is put in some kind of content and it distributes it out for me whenever I tell it to.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's called ConvertKit. Convertkit. I'll send that to you.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Cool, please do Okay. And that's how a lot of people can remember who you are, because you're going to constantly be in front of them, not just in the social medias, but in their email. Now, the nice thing about email is it's not regulated by an algorithm, right?
Speaker 1:They're going to get an email.
Speaker 2:They're going to see it. A lot of people say, hey, I'm going to. I have, you know, 100,000 followers, I'm just going to put them on. You know, put a post out. Not all 100,000 people are going to get that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right, so this way you can actually control who sees what.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a great idea. It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm not going to overload with, I'm not going to overload you because it's going to be too much, but that's definitely something I would like to hear about. Okay, let me ask you a question Do you have audio? Yes, Okay. So there's a book, an audio, called Will it Fly?
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, that book is from Pat Flynn. Pat Flynn is the guy that I follow to learn from Okay, and that book basically gives you a blueprint of how to make something, test something before and put something out before you spend too much time and money on it.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah, that would be a great thing to know.
Speaker 2:Because you don't want to go through all the way through the process. Finally have an in product and nobody buys it, Right?
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:So this book tells you how to avoid that.
Speaker 1:Okay, awesome Right.
Speaker 2:So we'll check that out. I also want you to read the book the Big Leap, the one I talked about earlier.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Okay, those two books are what started me, so I want you to you know. Whenever you get the chance, put an earbud in and listen to him. Okay, okay, I don't read my books. I listen to books. I start reading books. I fall asleep because my eyes get too tired, too quickly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love audiobooks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so okay. So what else have we got here? How much do you, how much do you really want to get to talk about social media, Because I have some ideas, but I mean how important that is, is that to you right now?
Speaker 1:Not super. I mean, I feel like I understand it's somewhat enough. If you have any ideas that you think would be beneficial, I'm fine with hearing them.
Speaker 2:So what you're doing right now as far as showing your, your products or your you know, that's great. Keep doing that. I want you to keep doing that, but I want you to take it a step further.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I want you to start videoing yourself actually making the product from beginning to end.
Speaker 1:Yes, I've been. I've been so nervous about doing that, but I think that would be a good idea.
Speaker 2:F-E-A-R yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, uh, false evidence appearing real.
Speaker 2:Very good, Don't be scared to do it. I mean you might be nervous at front, but change that nervous into excitement.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, change that word. I'm nervous about doing this. No, I'm excited about doing this. Okay, it actually comes from the same area in your excitement and nervousness actually come from the same area in your brain. So as long as you mentally change those words, you'll be excited to be able to do this. See what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah that, that actually helps me so much.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Just changing that word.
Speaker 2:So, um then, when you have the whole process videoed, you could possibly even start a YouTube.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And all you have to do. You don't need any flashy intros and outros and music or what don't worry about that, Just put out the, put out that point, Just videotaping and then ship it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And the videos on YouTube is the recipes that I use, because that's how I learn is watching other people bake, so I rarely use written recipes. I always just watch them on YouTube and make those. It would be cool if I could do that too.
Speaker 2:How do you think they learned?
Speaker 1:Right, they probably the same way yeah.
Speaker 2:They did, like 90% of them, I guarantee it. Yeah, but the reason why these people do it and most other people don't is because they actually take that step to do it. Right 90% of the people will not take that step because they're scared.
Speaker 1:Because of fear.
Speaker 2:Because of fear. Get over that fear. Get over that hurdle because it's trying to tell you something.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now, I'm not saying go do it tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But start experimenting with it. I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I could. I could just start trying slowly get like a tripod or something and just see how it goes, or even just hold my phone.
Speaker 2:Even take your phone and just like prop it up on something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then just pretend like you're doing a class, right? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I would love to try it. I think it would be a good experience and those are the videos that I love to watch, so it would be cool if I could put out that content.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, and now, if you need help with some of that, I'd be willing to help you. Cool, yeah, just you know. If you have any questions, or even it's like, oh I did this, but I need some editing, just send it to me, I'll edit it.
Speaker 1:Sweet yeah.
Speaker 2:I have. I have some programs that I can edit things pretty quickly Awesome.
Speaker 1:I could hire you to be my editing guy.
Speaker 2:Sure, why not?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'm going to try and get into it soon, because I honestly, even before you said that I've been thinking that for a while. I've just been excited, too excited, about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there you go, you've been listening.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's, it's just getting over that initial getting over that initial hump to actually just do it. Right, yeah, not selling Nike shoes here, okay, but you should just do it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:See how, how it turns out. You might surprise yourself, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I mean what would? The worst thing that could happen would be is like no one watches it or I get a mean comment or something, and that wouldn't be the end of the world.
Speaker 2:So Don't worry, don't even worry about mean comments. Yeah, even if you, even if you get them, it's like something that I've learned is hurt people, hurt people.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So if somebody's supporting out a mean comment, that's not constructive. There's something going on with their lives that they're having to do this to make themselves feel better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2:So, even if you do whatever moving on, don't let it stop. Yeah Right, what do they know? They don't know who you are, they just know your bacon stuff.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:That's a good point.
Speaker 2:All right, so I let's let's work on that. I want to work on that with you. Start putting, putting some. I think I ticked it off. You could actually go up to 10 minutes. Now I'll take time. So if you want to start putting, if it's a recipe that you know that will take not too long a time, or even if it's a recipe that you know you could cut out some time to make it. 10 minutes, there you go, yeah.
Speaker 1:I definitely. I've been like reading articles and stuff about how to video your making food because I am very interested in it. It's just something I've never tried before.
Speaker 2:Some of some phones. My phone's old, but some phones now actually have upsetting where it's.
Speaker 1:Take a picture of food and it actually it brightens the color of the anyway, yeah, I might have to look into my phone and see if it does that.
Speaker 2:So, okay, don't get too overly involved in social media. I think we talked about that a little bit earlier. Don't go doom scrolling and that kind of thing. If you don't get a whole lot of likes or whatever, don't let that stop you. You know, it's just the way it is. It's just the way the algorithm is. There's nothing to do with you. Yeah, so don't be afraid to grow in the home. I think that's a great idea. I think that's just about where everybody starts is growing in the home.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So one thing that I can actually point you to is there is a woman that's a really good friend of mine named Amy, and she does jams and jellies out of her home.
Speaker 1:Oh, awesome.
Speaker 2:So, like gourmet jams and jellies, she just does it right there in her home on her stove.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 2:So what I'd like to do is put you in touch with her, because she does. She's doing now with her jellies what you're trying to do with your baking.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Okay, yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 2:And I think she would be a great resource for you. So I'll send her. I'll send you her information to get a hold of her. Just tell her that Jesse, aka DJ Scoob, because that's how she knows me.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You're a friend of mine, and then you know from there.
Speaker 1:From there. Yeah, okay, yeah, that would be a great, a great person to talk to. Is she in this area or?
Speaker 2:No, she's in Maine.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, how cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It'd be really cool to hear from her or like see how it's going for her, because that's just be really interesting.
Speaker 2:She will definitely give you the basics and how, things to get, how to get things started when it comes to making food in the home for other people.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, that would be very important to know. I think, yeah.
Speaker 2:So if there's any of the resources with people that I can help you with, I will definitely send them your way, Because that's one of the nice things about networking and running into people is they will point you in the way that you want to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I've already realized like at work, after I started this, there was like two or three people who just had I had no idea that they had experience in this and they were giving me all kinds of ideas and insight and I was like I never even knew this about you, like how cool is that? So, yeah, it's interesting. As you meet more people or open up more about yourself, you gain a lot of insight. It's really cool.
Speaker 2:Good, good, all right, I'm just going to do you have any questions up to this point? Anything that's come across your mind up to this point that you want to discuss, or anything like that?
Speaker 1:I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm going to send you this video. Okay, so you can look back on it and you know if there's something. What did you say? Oh yeah, let me just go check it out real quick, or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, please do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. And what I'd like to do too, if it's okay with you, is I would like to have another coaching session like this one in a month. Okay, I'm not going to charge you anything for it. I want to see what kind of progress you can make in a month's time.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Now, I'm not expecting you to complete everything that we've talked about in a month's time. That's impossible. All I want is to see steps. I want to see movement, I want to see motivation towards these things, you know.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And when does this? When does this chili cook off? When it happened?
Speaker 1:I'm not sure I'm going to have to look into that, because I really think that would be a great place to start.
Speaker 2:I want to follow up with you, even if it's just text after that Okay, and see how that went for you, because I'm really excited to see you interact with other people that's doing similar things with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would be wonderful. I'd love that.
Speaker 2:Okay, so what I'd like to do at this point, give me three takeaways, three things that you've learned today that's really important to you.
Speaker 1:Okay, the first thing I learned was fear and how it is false evidence of appearing real.
Speaker 2:Using your notes is okay, that really stood out to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that really stood out to me. And replacing the word nervous with excited in my head, I think it's going to be do very big things for myself. That's going to keep me from stopping myself a lot. And oh yes, this is probably my favorite that you've got to be a disaster in order to be a master. That's perfect, yeah.
Speaker 2:I wish I could take credit for that one, but it's definitely something that I've learned, especially when it comes to my podcast and my YouTube channel. My first few YouTube's are definitely a disaster, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think not trying to be perfect. That's going to help me a lot.
Speaker 2:Good, that's a good one. That's a big one. I think that's going to be a big one for you.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Let yourself make the mistakes. Let yourself do what you need to do to learn.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, and what's the one thing that you're going to do as soon as we get off the phone call?
Speaker 1:Probably watch, I don't know. Probably look up some of the stuff you sent me. Okay, and not bake today because it's a Sunday.
Speaker 2:That's right. Instead of baking today maybe, yeah, look up some of that information that I sent you something that's different, that's not baking, that's not busy work or anything. Do something that you love, right.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have a me day and enjoy today as much as I can.
Speaker 2:There you go. All right, I'm going to go ahead and stop the recording Baking for listening to the coaching edition of the Undiscovered Entrepreneur brought to you by Doing it Today Coaching. If you want to get across the start line, contact me, dj Scoob, at Doing it Today Coaching at gmailcom. Say the words, do it now for a free two hour discovery call to see how I can help you in your entrepreneur adventure. Art and graphics by Elaine Wilson, supported by my Patreon, brian Briggs of OceanTree Creative and Oliver Siegel of A'Nall, and hosted by me, dj Scoob. Click the show notes below for more information. And remember I can, I am, I will and I'm doing it today.
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